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16 A. 3:54 p.m. on April 7th: "All this drama
17 reminds of all of our crew in Haddonfield." H-A-D-D-O-N
18 F-I-E-L-D.
19 "I have no idea how those guys are able to extract
20 economics from a merchant that Shift4 can't. I assume it
21 involved holy water and a crucifix.
22 Q. Do you see that?
23 A. I do.
24 Q. And what is that a reference to, sir, "that
25 Shift4 can't," but Haddonfield can?

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1 A. Well, this is 2020 and the world is ending and
2 I have COVID at the time. And so -- and, you know, when I
3 make like exorcist jokes, I'm probably referring to like
4 our competitors as demons, like you find in the movies.
5 Q. Okay. And so Haddonfield would be a competitor
6 you considered to be a demon, sir?
7 A. Well, Haddonfield is a fictional town in the
8 movie "Halloween." So, I mean, you're just connecting a lot
9 of dots, sir.
10 Q. Well, I'm trying to understand 2020 COVID talk
11 from Mr. Isaacman.
12 A. That's good context.
13 Q. So when you said the comment that I just read
14 with Haddonfield, "I have no idea how those guys," those
15 guys, who were those guys?
16 A. I have no idea.
17 Q. You have --
18 A. I mean, it's a message. Like, I don't know
19 what I was referring to there. People write "those guys"
20 all the time without any recollection, I'm sure, two years
21 later.
22 Q. Okay. So you have no recollection of any part
23 of that text, sir?
24 A. That specifically says I have no idea who those
25 guys are. I can read.

17 Q. We're back to the April 7th, 1:37 p.m., text.
18 All right. So, sir, going back to the text message at
19 1:37, I think you read this in the record. "I swear they,"
20 the Lighthouse folks, "are D3mons sent from another
21 planet." That was a comment comparing Lighthouse to
22 demons?
23 A. No. Again, this is just --
24 Q. So you disagree with your counsel's statement?
25 A. Well, I just -- you know, this is such a

1 serious courtroom. You know, it sounds so ridiculous to
2 have to, like, give so much weight to texts that are made
3 two and a half years ago.
4 So you really -- I don't know what to tell you.
5 I really don't.
6 So, no, I don't think that, you know, Shift4
7 views its competitors as demons. I can't really
8 elaborate much more on this.
9 (Via Zoom video conference.)
10 MR. ROZEN: Five minutes, please.
11 (Recess taken.)
12 MR. McNAULT: Back on the record.
13 BY MR. McNAULT:
14 Q. So, sir, your testimony today is you have no
15 recollection of what that text message means from two
16 years ago, I swear they are d3mons. You don't know what
17 that refers to?
18 A. I don't recall.
19 Q. You don't recall who the D3mons are that you're
20 referencing there?
21 A. I do not.
22 Q. Okay. And you have no recollection of what you
23 mean when you said: "I swear," I guess, Lighthouse, those
24 folks are d3mons. You don't know what that's in
25 reference to?

1 A. No. It's, again, another planet. I don't know
2 what to tell you.
3 Q. Okay. So you just use demons from another --
4 I'm just trying to be clear.
5 A. No. I use like -- I make jokes. I make a lot
6 of movie references. I don't really know what to tell
7 you. I really don't.
8 Q. And you have no recollection of the reference
9 about holy water and crucifix, you don't know what that
10 means, sir?
11 A. I mean, I think -- you know, I think I read in
12 court filings, there was some, you know, description. I
13 mean, this is just jokes.
14 Q. Okay. So you don't recall one way or the other,
15 sir?
16 A. That's right.
17 Q. Okay. I want to move to another text.
18 MR. McNAULT: Mr. Leckerman, can we go to
19 Exhibit J- -- what are looking for here? Here it is. J-6.
20 BY MR. McNAULT:
21 Q. Have you had a chance to look at that, sir?
22 A. Yes.

J6
Jared Isaacman
Apr 8, 2020,11:22 AM
To:Jared Isaacman
Jaredl
Are we increasing our offer to our partners?

Jared Isaacman
Not that I know of. Let me check with Nate

Jaredl
Mike is telling me that we have a new program

Jared Isaacman
Okay. Maybe. I will find out
Let me ask Sarah lsat week

Jaredl
What is LSAT?

Jared Isaacman
Last week
Sorry. I just got off a COVID quarantine call at the White
House. So still catching up on a few things.

Jaredl
Got it
Okay, cool.

Jaredl
Are we increasing our offer to our partners?

Jared Isaacman
Not that I know of. Let me check with Nate

Jaredl
Mike is telling me that we have a new program

Jared Isaacman
Okay. Maybe. I will find out
Let me ask Sarah lsat week

Jaredl
What is LSAT?

Jared Isaacman
Last week
Sorry. I just got off a COVID quarantine call at the White
House. So still catching up on a few things.

Jaredl
Got it
Okay, cool.